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Received: by cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:24:50 MST
To: icon-group-l@cs.arizona.edu
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 14:01:11 GMT
From: goer@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz)
Message-Id: <1994Aug31.140111.22639@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: University of Chicago
Sender: icon-group-request@cs.arizona.edu
References: <33tacj$pen@ios.com>, <1994Aug30.140940.5002@midway.uchicago.edu>, <33vlde$95i@ios.com>
Reply-To: goer@midway.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Icon - still alive??
Errors-To: icon-group-errors@cs.arizona.edu
In article <33vlde$95i@ios.com> nmw@ios.com (Nick Williams) writes:
>
>>That's funny. I feel quite the opposite. I dread the kitchen sink
>>mentality - turning Icon into a heap of platform-specific extensions
>>geared for things that C and PERL already do much better.
>
>I could deal with loadfunc really (as one of the examples in the IPL
>demonstrates), but some things (setenv() comes to mind...) should be
>standard. If the presence of more system dependent features makes Icon
>programs non-portable, then they can be put in separate libraries along
>with LARGE warnings...
Sounds perfectly ghastly - using Icon for something it wasn't really
intended. The most that I personally would like to see is a solution
to the problem of calling C functions from Icon. At least this would
let each language do what it does without interference from the other.
Trouble is that the memory management would, at times, conflict (e.g.
if malloc is called).
Of course all of this is predicated on resources, and right now the
Icon Project seems absorbed in graphics extensions (which is great).
If improvements are to be made to Icon's C calling interface, this will
need to come from outside, at least for now.
>PS: let's not deteriorate into a comp.lang.lisp style language war.
:-)
--
-Richard L. Goerwitz goer%midway@uchicago.bitnet
goer@midway.uchicago.edu rutgers!oddjob!ellis!goer